The (Actual) Shape of the Earth in the Quran Mohd Farhan Ali New Member. What will the heavens and the earth establish/maintain by the command of Allah. And since this is not what people who are located far from the centre of the Earth experience, the Flat Earthers decided that it is easier to declare that there is no such thing as gravity! Nowadays, the spheroid shape of earth is an undisputable scientific fact that is . This he termed seafloor spreading. There are a number of critical points that the above statement demonstrates. He has served as the science editor for the Review of Religions (one of the oldest English-language magazines on comparative religions), writes for national and online media, and is a speaker on University lecture circuits on issues relating to Muslim youth and Islam in the modern world. You and your words count for the judgment day. Lo! [Tafseer Noorul Irfaan], The Glorious Quran further tells us, And He made the sun and moon subservient for you which are constantly moving, and made the day and night subservient for you. [Surah 14, Verse 33], The sun and the moon are constant without any breakage in them, nor do they take any leave for the purpose of resting. Tafsir Jalalayn says that EARTH is flat. The matter gets tricky the further away one is located from the centre. [Tafseer Noorul Irfaan]. eg Mankind establish the salat, and maintain building/mosque etc. They shall come to know. How is this supposed to be a Sun that never goes below the horizon? Don't miss out on ourcarefully researched articles. They mean that the Earth is stationary and the Sun moves around the Earth and thus we have day and night. If this is the knowledge of the slave of Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam), then what must be the knowledge of the Beloved Rasool (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) himself? After all, they are in separate verses. Required fields are marked *. You and (hayy bin yaqzan) seems to be only ones with common sense here. Not to burst their bubble, but the atmosphere of Earth actually is composed of multiple layers. This verse points out that the earth is spherical, in an indirect way not an uncommon approach by the Qur'an, leaving the reader to do the pondering. Dahaha is derived from Duhiya which specifically refers to the egg of an ostrich which is geospherical in shape, exactly like the shape of . By 2050, Muslims will make up nearly equal shares of Worlds population as of Christians. Some skeptics claim that the order in the Quran is wrong. Each one runs to a term stated. Ahmadi Muslims taking on the big questions with a light touch. Great article! He produced therefrom its water and its pasture, And the universe, We constructed it with might and. As in other subjects . Quran is miracle. One explanation has come to light only recently, as more and more scientists believe that the perfect conditions for the origin of life are found in undersea hydrothermal vents, at these very mountain ridges. So what are Jinn, another tribe with flat noses? Never should we place the word of men above the word of God. While all creatures came from water and then crawled on their bellies is correct, all evolution theories suggest that evolved animals walked on four legs long . How dare we believe in thesame folks that staged the fake moon land and disbelieve in Allah. The existence of lengthy days at the polar regions do not affect more than 1% of the worlds population, and so is irrelevant; fasting in normal daylight times would still be considered a valid practice. The aim of this article is not to verify the validity of the FEM from a scientific point of view but only to examine whether the FEM, with its various features, is supported by Quranic evidence or it is in contradiction to Quranic evidence. Extraordinarily, the Quran describes them as being layered, i.e. Do you hear? (c) That some of these verses have metaphorical meanings. It puzzles me that such great minds were unable to come to the conclusion that a 13 or 14 year old child was close to coming to the only reason I can think of for this is that the Muslim Scientists and thinkers of the East were so enamoured with the works of Aristotle which limited their imagintive thinking and were not employing the Holy Quran in their scientific thought processes whereas in the West the Muslim Scientists started breaking vehemently away from Aristotle.. Hello, I think in this verse it uses a figure of speech. The word referred to (rawsiya) does not mean specifically ocean crust mountains since in 13:3 it is used for mountains and rivers placed therein when the earth is spread and 77:27 they are additionally lofty to emphasise their height above us. No, not at all. When the Sun rises, it rises. Book Review Emergence by Damir Rafi: A Story of Discovery, Unity and Fulfilment, What Cornish Cows Taught Me About the Meaning of Life, Book Review: Craig Considines Islam, Race and Pluralism Provides a Path to Unity, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKOmYxmvTXk&, https://www.quranite.com/the-quranic-model-of-the-heavens-and-the-earth/. Assalam u Alakium Note the following verse: "He merges Night into Day, and he merges Day into Night, and he has subjected the sun and the moon (to his Law): each one runs its course for a term appointed. So if it just means many it could simply refer to the billions of star systems in the universe. The Holy Quran classified to 30 chapters contain 119 Sura, where each Sura contains many Ayat (verses). It has a diameter of about 1,392,684 km, about 109 times that of Earth, and its mass (about 21030 kilograms, 330,000 times that of Earth) accounts for about 99.86% of . One question remains, and it is applicable to all verses of the Quran on scientific topics. Brothers and sisters in Islam I ask that you consider for a moment that indeed the earth is flat and the the words of the Quran are justified and true without any doubt. He wont answer man, but here I will tell you, this seven heavens being troposphere and all is BS, They are only trying to fit Quran into how science interprets the universe`. News: Forum Policy http://quransmessage.com/forum/policy. (b) that the primary texts themselves allow for a sufficient scope of interpretation that would allow for such a position. They had the impression, shared with the rest of mankind, that the earth was stationary and it was this false impression that was not obtrusively challenged. It simply states that when the mountains are crushed and scattered, there will be no elevation or depression in the Earth. The Qur'anic earth is flat. It is therefore highly significant that the Quran directly links the process of the Earth spreading out to the formation of underwater mountains, in the following verses: And the earth have We spread out [madadna], and set therein firm mountains [Rawaasiya] and caused everything to grow therein in proper proportion. [15:20], And the earth We have spread it out [madadna-ha], and placed therein firm mountains [Rawaasiya]; and We have made to grow therein every kind of beautiful pair. [50:8]. Insha Allah hereunder you will find proof from the Holy Quran that the earth is in fact stationary and the sun revolves around in an orbit. We Muslims are in the sorry state we are today because we put this so called Science above the Quran. If they were indeed immobile, there couldnt be any continental drift. In his second treatise, Ala Hazrat (Radiallahu Taala Anh) has elaborated that the sun is in motion while earth is static based on astronomical observations and calculations. They sell the ayaat of Allah for a paltry price. Are you kidding me the quoran written in 700 ac. As in one verse it says the Mountains are moving like clouds and in the other it says the Mountains are firmly rooted in the Earth both things can only be true if either the Earth is spinning on its axis or there is continental drift. This is the Black Sea, containing muddy springs (hence named Black) and sitting at the Western extent of Cyrus empire. With their objections they prove that they are narrow-minded and possess an unprincipled nature, otherwise they would not have raised objections against what is, in fact, a mine of deep and true knowledge. These mountain ranges are volcanic, continually emitting magma. Sia, the Quran is directly from Allah, Babylonian mythology wasnt written until 700 B.C. Take the following verse: The sun and the moon follow exact courses. (55:5). In fact he even went on to refute, with numerous proofs, the assumption of scientists that the atmosphere also rotates with the earth, i.e. Zameen = land. There is NO verse in the whole Quran saying that the Earth is stationary or the sun is rotating around the Earth or the Earth has square or any other non spheroidal shape. Nor was the sunna primarily interested in elucidating points of scientific fact. 3981 miles. In so far as the prerogative to determine the movement of celestial bodies belongs to those in the fields of astronomy, cosmology, etc., those in the field of religious scholarship are required to submit to their opinions on these issues. jobb willys helsingborg; May 28, 2022 . $18.00. The movement of the sun is until its appointed time i.e. Does it mean that Earth is flat? The Qur'an mentions the earth several times, and it is obviously flat in description. The reason can only be because of the dipping of the Sun below the curved surface of the Earth. [27:89] If the mountains are declared to be in constant motion, then the only logical inference to be drawn from this would be that the earth is also rotating along with them. Second, in these and several other verses in the Quran (see below) the orbits of sun and moon are mentioned together and no distinction is made between them. This is the Commandment of the Most Honourable, the Most Knowing.[Surah 36, Verse 38], This tells us that the heavens and the earth are anchored and the stars are floating in them. SPHERICAL EARTH & STATIONARY.. 3) QURAN HADITH INTERPRETATION BY ALA HAZRAT R.A (FLAT OR STATIONARY) EARTH Mohd Farhan Ali, Apr 3, 2022 #41. the verse youre referring to mentions that the mountains are firm not immobile but the word firm doesnt necessarily mean immobile therefore the point of continental drift still stands. Oh Allah I disassociate myself from those who try to change the meaning of your Book and I disassociate myself from every ungrateful hypocrite who only lives to please his people around him. heavens and the earth were a joined entity then We ripped them apart. Today, the 'Flat Earth' followers have their own societies, they hold conferences and believe that they are on a mission to save the world from this sinister conspiracy. Excuse may be given to those who do not believe in the Holy Quran, however there can be no excuse for those who believe the Quran to be the true Word of God. In favour of this Ala Hazrat (Radiallahu Taala Anh) wrote the following treatises: In his first treatise, Ala Hazrat (Radiallahu Taala Anh) has discussed the earth theory in light of the Quran and Hadith that the earth and sky are static, by quoting several verses from the Holy Quran. Of course they will quickly jump and say there are verses that say the Deen of God is Islam, this shows how ignorant and blind they are, they brand the name Islam and do not even attempt to translate it to submission, deceiving the masses into a cult called Islam, the path of God is submission to him not Islam. So He completed them into seven heavens in two days, and He revealed to each heaven its function. In this verse, God describes how He is literally destroying land at its outlying borders. Picture yourself sitting on a train that is travelling at a high speed. Whereas, the whole world was considering that earth was stationary: It is said: "daha" the thing; "yad'hu dahwan". are you serious Quran written at least 1500 years after Babylonian Mythology. The Quran clearly describes in many instances that the sky is a ceiling and cannot be penetrated, and never once mentions galaxies or space or void. From this perspective, references to the earth, sun, stars, the moon, and other celestial objects within the primary sources is primarily for the purpose of drawing the attention of human beings towards the creation of God. It also gives the mechanism by which the Earths crust is recycled. When you were talking about Sky above us you said it was referring to the layers of our atmosphere. And We adorned the lowest heaven with lamps for light and for protection. This is just a small segment of one of the simpler arguments put forward by Ala Hazrat (Radiallahu Taala Anh). Why this logically follows is beyond me. Regarding ocean mountains, the best tafsir is the Quran itself. We all know NASA only show us CGI images of Earth. Who knew? WikiIslam authors argue that because the Quran describes the sun as setting into the sea, it means the sun literally enters into the water. The Holy Quran clearly suggests the spheroid shape of the Earth in many verses See The Holy Quran also mentions the movement of sun and planetary objects clearly 36:40 Will they not believe? Indeed, "God moved upon the face of the waters." Genesis 1:2. It is said: "daha" the thing; "yad'hu dahwan". (a) despite holding a contrary position, Imam Alusi acknowledges that if the evidence of those who state the sun is stationary is established, then that is the position that will be adopted. Please be more open to ideas, as Quran is a book for people who can think . This concept is part of the following classification in the ontology : Earth is referred to in verse ( 7:54) of chapter (7) srat l-arf . Trying to bend the verses to fit the narrative of the modern science is literally pushing donw the scripture, Earth is flat and geocentric as we experience , NASA LIES SO DOES ALL GOVERMENTS. Once again, it was thought that the Earth is stationary and flat and was returned to its old position at the centre of the universe. Because had it done so, it would run the risk of being rejected by the people of the 7th century on the basis of an irrelevant scientific fact that bears no relation to the purpose for which the Quran was sent spiritual development. 9 Scientific Miracles of the Quran (No. As we explained in our previous article, in Arabic, the root of a word determines its context of use and associated meanings. The FEM, with its significantly modest dimensions does in fact belittle the greatness of God's immense creation. earth is stationary quran verse. He has written for the Huffington Post, Patheos and the Guardian. Hi there. leann hunley kinder. So that was ridiculous. 5) "The truth is from your Lord, so do not be among the doubters" [Quran 3:60] The process of consumption of the Earths crust occurs at ocean ridges. It will confirm the words and will confirm the truth. According to the western world, the sun is the stationary centre of the universe and the earth revolves on its own axis as well as around the sun. Tahir Nasser is a writer, moonlighting as a medical doctor. Futuristically optimistic to bring efficacious change through innovation, to eventually becoming a TYPE 1 civilization. Anything which cannot be dislodged can never be catapulted out of the earth, to fly alone, leaving the earth behind.The Holy Quran exquisitely succeeds in making this revelation in a manner that the prevalent knowledge of that time is not too loudly challenged. It is almost perfectly spherical and consists of hot plasma interwoven with magnetic fields. is it millions of miles away or is it just above the clouds. In fact the Quran in many verses compares the Earth with the seven heavens (skies), never once compared the Earth with planets, the sun or the moon, because they completely differ, it is like comparing a house to a banana, furthermore, the Earth was created before the heavens as the Quran says. - They do not give off light, but only reflect light. Likewise, if a person near the edge of the flat Earth throws a ball upwards above his head, it will be pulled sideways and would land a few feet away from where he is standing, and in the direction of the centre of the disc-shaped Earth. To do so, it is necessary to list the main claims associated with the Flat Earth Model (FEM): - The stars are points of light on the wall of the dome. So enlightening. According to the western world, the sun is the stationary centre of the universe and the earth revolves on its own axis as well as around the sun. thirdly it is only talking about the solar system with seven earth of the solar system. Question: Recently I read that it is obligatory for Muslims to believe that the earth is stationary and that the sun orbits around it. THUS IS SO FUNNI IM SORRY IM LAUGHING SO HARD, Not just Qran but in Pakistan imams are saying to kids that earth is not jus flat but it is still(not revolving) and sun comes around it makrs day and night As it happens, the majority of the features of the FEM contradict and discredit a large number of scientific theories and scientific knowledge that has been known and accepted for many centuries. I wanted to ask you that the words you mentioned above which are firash, farash, bisaat, madadna etc I cant find these arabic words in the quranic verses and you mentioned a quranic verse 20:54 it dont say anything about earth but it only says bout pasture the livestock.. And you also said that dhul qarnayn is referred to cyrus the great but as far as I know dhul qarnayn was Allahs prophet whi sealed yog and magog in a wall away from humanity so youre saying cyrus did that? [Allah] Created the heavens and the Earth in truth. But I dont think that the seven heavens mean layers of the atmosphere, because in verse 41: 13 it says that the lowest heaven is adorned with lamps: If the Quran had described the earth as stationary and the heavenly bodies as revolving around it, then although the people of that time might have been satisfied with this description, the people of the later ages would have treated that statement as a proof of the ignorance of the Qurans author. Please help me out sir It is interesting to know that if you visit Dubai during the month of Ramadan, and you visit Burj Khalifa, which is the tallest building in the world; a height of 829 metres (2722 ft), you will find that when it is time to break fast during the month of fasting (Ramadan), which happens at sunset, people dining at the top restaurant break their fast 2 minutes later than the timing at ground level. By saying that the spreading of the earth is not conjoined with the mention of Jibaal, what was not meant is that they cannot occur in the same passage, but that whenever spreading out is mentioned along with mountains immediately along side it, in the same verse, then you see the word rawaasiyaa is used. My prayers are with you all! It is unbelievable that you people think everything has to be in accordance to the views of modern scientific establishments. Do not listen to Muslims interpretation of the Quran, they know nothing about the Quran, they claim to have authority over it, but they know nothing about it particularity those who speak Arabic (the irony), they worship a black box in Saudi Arabia, they serve the tyrants (those who live in the middle east) and serve their modern tyrants (those who live in the west) they perform rituals never once mentioned in the Quran, and they do everything opposite to what the Quran says. If they are lying (whoever) it is about the size of the earth. there are verses which are interpreted by some scholars as meaning the earth is flat whilst other scholars reject this interpretation and believe the earth is spherical. - In order for the FEM to work, a great number of scientific phenomena are discarded and labelled to be a hoax, such as: gravity, plate tectonics, expanding universe, nuclear fusion, pressure gradient, and many other long approved scientific phenomena. Regards. This is because they can see further and thus they see the Sun for 2 minutes longer than those on ground level. Can you tell me what belief we should have? It is for this reason that I advise you to pursue your search for the truth with gentleness and patience.. So, verily, with every difficulty, there is ease. I know being apologetic and defending a book written by 700AD desert dwellers could be challenging so try again. Only in light of seafloor spreading and the fundamental importance that played in the formation of undersea mountains, and indeed, the beginning of life, does the importance of the Earths spreading come to light. The term seafloor spreading, dont forget, was not coined by Muslims. the bird will also move together with the branch due to the earths motion. Why would the sky fall down onto the earth? This is Allah, your Lord. This shows how Islam as a belief or religion is shaping the peoples overall view of life. So why would the whole world conspire to falsify the words of Allah and why are our top scholars bending backwards to capitulate to so called Science. The Qur'an mentions the actual shape of the earth in the following verse: "And we have made the earth egg shaped". . The first argument is that the Quran describes the journey of Dhul Qarnain (Cyrus the Great) Westwards, stopping at a point where the sun sets into a body of water, muddy in nature. Also, to translate this verse to indicate that though humans today consider the mountains to be stationary, they are not so because in future they will fly, would be evidently wrong. mythology which says stars are at the lowest heaven. When the parents flatten out the terrain before laying. This is a remarkable and profound proof of the existence of God. i typed a comment its not here anymore where is it??? Forsake the myths of the taghoot and embrace the the words of Allah. This is a powerful method of making man reflect in so far as it appeals to his or her actual experience of these celestial bodies. Quran Miracle As It Says Sun Is Not Stationary But Quran almost around 1400 years ago told us that the Sun is also not stationary and also tells about the movement of planets, Earth and all celestial bodies in space and also around their own axis. The mountains that you see, you think they are stationary while they are constantly floating like the floating of clouds. Each moves on its course to an appointed time. No rational reason is given as to what would anyone gain by hiding that the Earth is flat, if indeed it were. It is through reflecting on these created things that humans are able to recognize the existence and power of God: Indeed, in the alternation of the night and day and in what God has created within the heavens and the earth are signs for those who are pious. (10:9). If they had read with care the end of the same verse they would have been left with no room for any misunderstanding. In our article on whether mountains decrease the effects of earthquakes (they do!) May Allah Taala grant us the Taufeeq and Hidayat to accept the truth and to reject the falsehood which the west is spreading throughout the world, Ameen. Verily, in it there are signs for the wise people. [, And it is He Who created the night and the day and the sun and the moon. Checked & Approved by Shaykh Faraz Rabbani. Earth is geospherical in shape + The Quran mentions the actual shape of the earth in the following verse: "And we have made the earth egg shaped". The lowest heaven is the entire universe, and each heaven is exponentially larger than the preceding heaven and then we finally get to Allahs arsh and Allahs throne which are larger than the 7th heaven. But I also heard the explanation that seven is used to mean many or an endless repetition in the arabic language, in the same way thousands is used in English to mean many. There is no point in reinventing the wheel, and as such, I will simply quote the remarkable and beautiful elucidation of the Fourth Khalifa of the Ahmadiyya Muslim community, Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmadrh, to explain the definitive evidence of a planetary model in the Quran: Now we turn to another aspect of the description of the cosmos which relates to the motion of the heavenly bodies. Based on your logic stars would be found in the troposphere which we know isnt accurate. This can in fact be understood as relating to a globe in which East is the West of West, and West is the East of East. Why Atheisms God of The Gaps Argument is a Bad One. do not try to twist the Quran, Quran has no science in it. Such a statement, they would emphasize, could not have been made by an All-Knowing, Supreme Being.Rather than literally comparing the motion of the earth to that of other heavenly bodies, the Quran makes the following statement: . You can see their light break through the clouds at opposing angles, as if by a pyramid, and then remember Ibrahim AS when he realized neither Sun or the Moon are gods. Salam tahir nasir As this verse from the Quran states, Allah's mercy encompasses everything and is boundless, meaning that no matter what we are asking forgiveness from, we should always ask for it with sincerity and inshallah we will be answered. 44 And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour. Do you know what happen if the stars where at the lowest heaven/sky. Given that Continental drift to human beings hundreds of years ago would be impossible to imagine, the first conclusion Muslim scientists should have drawn was that the Earth was spinning on its axis based on a literal reading of the Holy Quran. it could also be that the whole material and space in the universe including the billions stars and galaxies and deep space far beyond our imagination is in fact still below the seven heaven. They claimed that the spherical Earth conspiracy is run by NASA and the UN (even though it has been known that the earth is round for many centuries, long before these 2 organisations were formed.) This is the idea that all continents were once one land mass, and slowly drifted apart to their present-day positions. sorry but you are still wrong becausethe quran says the stars are at the lowest heaven Therefore it is a clear denial and rejection of the Quranic verses to accept the sun as the static centre and the earth revolving around it. we showed through analysis of the roots of each word, that they refer to two different types of mountains: mountains on land (Jibaal) and undersea mountains known as seamounts in Geology (Rawaasiya). Friday, June 10, 2022posted by 6:53 AM . People like you is why the world isnt evolving and getting better. Did you not see that Allah turns night into the day and returns the day in the night and He makes the sun and the moon serve you? Interestingly however, he found that the land closest to the volcanoes, was younger.
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